Sorry for the delay in response. Had a fever and was jammed with work at the same time.
Have you ever considered or have gone to get full bloodwork done? Perhaps you may be deficient in some specific vitamins or minerals. Even when my SD took over my eyebrows or my scalp I never experience the amount of hairloss your describe. However, everyone is different.
Honestly, I would highly suggest the treatment approach I took. It seems a good proportion of other reads have had really good results with it as well. What has kept you away from it?
Check the comments section for feedback from people. Also this post has a huge comments section going as well.
Yeah and crazy long post. Seems like your way over thinking it. Sometimes less is more.
Thanks for taking your time agian,sorry gain for that long post but as my english is not that good its hard to me to resume all.This time is shorter but it might caught your interest as well.
Well Im about to try something new.
Its called “biodecodificacion milecular” in english molecular biodecodification.searh Dr hammer if I translated it wrong.
It about how all diseases start by stress or generational stress and traumes aka “cancer genes,alzeimer genes,eczmea genes” etc.
So I went to a seminary about this,it really opened my mind,its true and has it logic,why in university they teach you how to cure or what is a disease but never say how this disease appeared??why animals have less diseases than humans??why the disease goes for some tome and then come back?all this was answered by person giving the seminary.
The mind its what create this generational diseases,it make no sense that your life its a rulete to get cancer or lots of others,so this treatment works going back to your greatgrands,grandparents and parents to decode the conflicts of your mind.
I really convince myself about how my seb derm is going to go,its been like more than week that I dont think about it,went out with my eyebrows fucked up and red,etc…but it actualy got worse lol still,tho I didnt got my family tree decoded neither my mind so wll se next thursday about.the sesions are quiet expensive but many people say its the best,in one two or three sesions you are free of the disease.I also went to monk monastery that treat with energy and was told I have lots of stress inside and generationl and they gave me some herbs to take baths and drink.
sorry if a took your time with my long ass posts lol.
we keep in touch man,thanks alot for answering
Still belive Im going to succeed,
Quite a large comment for sure.
Intersting to hear about your current approach. It sounds intersting, but I honestly think it might be too complicated to work well. Atleast this is my belief.
Simple is key to having something work long term.
Additionally, it’s hard to trust people who have never experience SD for themselves. It’s easy for a person to at a seminar to have convicing claims, but it’s often difficult for them to back these up with facts. So be careful friend. This is an area which is often full of surprises.
In a way I do agree that it is related to your ancestry. However, the human genome is quite complex. So really pin-pointing a simple thing such a stress is quite hard.
I believe ancestry plays a role in how are bodies are built. Going against our ancestry can cause stress for our bodies. For example if your ancestors ate mostly fruit, vegetables, grains, and other grown produce I believe your body will have issues eating mainly meat.
Currently working on a comprehensive post that looks at all the current research in the area of internal issues and SD. Too much studies look at the topical aspects, without trying to figure out why it’s really happening.
You will succeed! Just keep at it.
I’m guessing you still have not tried the Restoraderm?
Really well-written article! I just wanted to say how different my experience has been with using coconut oil, having done the whole honey/coconut oil routine for about 2.5 years now.
Maybe it’s different for everyone, but in my case using both honey and coconut oil as part of the treatment was extremely effective and any flare-ups I’ve had have usually lasted no more than a few days. I recently had a pretty bad one that was more stubborn than usual, and having been re-reading all this stuff I came across your page and decided to try not using the coconut oil for a while. It seemed to make it worse than ever - as bad as it had been at its peak before I’d discovered any effective way of managing it. A whole week of being redder and more uncomfortable than it had been in years.
I had some big social events coming up and was pretty worried. I went back to the original treatment with the coconut oil and the results were almost instantaneous, it had mostly gone in 2/3 days and hasn’t really been back since. When I was using just honey, my skin felt exposed and painful after washing the honey off. The coconut oil seemed to soothe and calm down the seb derm.
Scientifically I’m completely ignorant about any of the potential reasoning behind this, but in my case there’s zero doubt that coconut oil has provided vastly superior results to using honey by itself.
Thanks for the kind words.
Sorry about throwing you off of your original approach (with the coconut oil).
Sometimes ignorance is bliss.
Will make sure to update the post and add details about your experience.
If you have the spare time, consider joining the community. You seem to have been using this treatment for a substantial amount and likely have valuable insights on regarding it.
In the study the procedure was performed every other day for 4 weeks. After the 4 weeks they also performed once weekly applications for 6 months.
If your doing the 3 hours treatments, it becomes fairly difficult to sustain this.
Hey Michael,
I want to try this after I finish my sea salt on my face and I have a question, should I apply the raw honey by its self without the other oils? And also what do you mean by 9 parts of honey?
Thanks for your time
For me the raw honey worked best on it’s own. Oil seemed to cause irritation to return quicker. Others report it worked well with coconut oil as a follow up.
90% honey with 10% water. The water makes the honey easier to apply and it seems to activate some sort the beneficial properties as well.
Hi Connor,
When I was doing the honey treatment, I would basically either not do anything or simply use a bit of honey as a face wash (seems to work rather well actually).
Hope that helps. Any changes on the SD?
Also just an update. I’ve fully stopped washing my face (except water) and have been using a custom lotion (natural and edible).
Hoping to have some samples ready for the community soon.
hey there,
thank you for your skindrone site. love the name!
did you try the honey also in combi with the cethapil samples? cleanser and moisturiszer?
I tried honey for 7 months with great success before.
what happened: no signs of sd no redness no flaking.
but when I did wash with dove white soap bar I could see sometimes dead skin. 10 min afterwards it was not visable anymore. but left skin damage after some time.
do I decided to quit.
Instead of white soap bar I see that head & shoulders works also with honey.
Now I look for a great moisturizer…
Now it comes.: when each product single lifts sebderm how come that those products used together don’t lifs sebderm or can make it worse in just seconds or minutes…
that’s why I don’t believe the yeast thing is just a factor and not the main issue.
Its like the cement of the skin just dissolves when u hit the skin with a wrong chemistry (products order)
hi, I want to know that after washing raw honey from hairs with water, on another day I have to wash my scalp with shampoo or not. If not then when can I wash my hairs with shampoo… should I put any hair oil or only honey method is sufficient? PLEASE rly to my ques as I’m suffering sever hair fall from an year
The honey I was using previous to the Cetaphil. When I started the Cetaphil, I was only using the cleanser and moisturizer, nothing else. This worked really well for about a year. However, summer came and I noticed my skin was quite sensitive to the sun. So I started experimenting and made my own ointment based on research I’ve been doing. This comment has some more details on it.
And yeah SD is tricky. Lots of the products that aim that controlling it also effect many of the beneficial bacteria that reside on our skin. As a result, the modified communities are much more unstable and SD seems to quickly return. I’m trying to write a book and the skin chapter goes into more detail on how the skin really works. Perhaps, it might provide some info into what’s happening.
Hope that helps. All the best mate.
Keeping things simple has worked well for me. Most of my real issues with SD were at the beginning when I was searching forums for answers. Some people give horrible recommendations :).
When I was using the honey treatment I only applied it to my face. Never the scalp as it seemed to difficult of a process. Many of the anti-fungal shampoos seem to be very helpful in alleviating SD related hair loss. The seborrheic dermatitis shampoo article goes into the different shampoos in more detail.
thank you for your feedback. and thanks for your forum and all the help.
Good persistence. Is your skin surface damaged by sebderm? I mean that white caking or just that little small flakes or rashes can cause skin damage. also depending the skincare.
Hi Jojo,
My skin seems to have recovered fairly well from the damage cause be SD.
The biggest thing I had issues with was skin tone, which was pale due to increased sensitivity of the skin to the sun.
Currently, I have finally found a way to really bring the skin back to life. However, I’m waiting for feedback from the community. If it’s as effective for others as it has been for me, will definitely update here.
Thanks so much for making this amazingly helpful website! It’s the first time in my life I’ve ever had any kind of skin problems (didn’t even ever have acne or pimples in my teens) and now my face is an angry field of crusty sores, so this is pretty traumatizing for me, to say the least…
It’s my first day trying the raw honey mask, and I forgot to mix it with water because of my overexcitement… but I have a jar of boiled water I’ve put aside for the following days to come. My question is this: right now, I don’t use any moisturizer on my face because I mistakenly used an aloe-vaseline type of thing on my face thinking it’d help due to someone’s advice that petroleum jelly is helpful, only to have it make my symptoms become three times worse overnight. I’m afraid of something like that happening again, but I’m also worried about not moisturizing at all. But thankfully, I came across your site today and happen to have raw honey on hand.
Do you recommend that I apply the Cetaphil Restoraderm lotion as well as using this mask? And do you recommend the Restoraderm body cleanser over zinc soap? My current routine is to wash my face with zinc soap twice a day and to use CeraVe when the dryness becomes really unbearable, but I haven’t seen any improvements so far and I’m scared to make any changes to my routine in case it makes things worse… I also wanted to try the Nystatin cream, but the only site I saw that ships to the U.S. charges almost 40 bucks for shipping alone, so I’m a bit reluctant to try that…
I am new to the site and to seb derm. I made a lengthy post today about my experience in the raw honey forum/discussion if anyone is interested. It’s related to this topic, but I felt what I had was both general and specific so I thought the raw honey forum was an ideal place to post for discussion rather than here where it might get lost. Hope you’ll check it out and we can get further conversation going.
Yeah, strangely enough I had perfect skin until SD came into my life.
Thanks for sharing your experience with the raw honey treatment.
Hard to say regarding the combination. Once I started with the Restoraderm I completely ditched all other treatments.
Currently, I’ve made my own product and have abandoned absolutely everything else. Right now my routine is as simple as can be. Rinse with water, wait a few minutes and apply Biom8. Since starting this regimen, my skin seems to actually look as it did before SD ever came around. It’s been a little more then 3 months, but hopefully this continues indefinitely. You can find details on my approach on the Regimen 2.0 post.
Cerave never did much for me for some reason and zinc soap always left my skin extremely sensitive and pale.
Hope that helps and let me know if you have any other questions.
Look forward to any updates and best of luck!
