My Seborrheic Dermatitis Skin Regimen

Deconoic also goes by the name of capric acid. Capric acid has show posses good anti-fungal potential as well. And specifically it’s very good at fighting candida cultures:

After testing each individually, I found that a combination worked the best for me.
Yeah, I actually consume the stuff too. Not before each meal, but a teaspoon here and there. Perhaps this may be part of why it has been so effective as well. And this is why I’m making the larger quantities available.

Thanks for letting me know.
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Hi Michael

It’s been my understanding that anyone with seb derm should only be using OIL FREE products. I was wondering about that in your product. Could you please list all the ingredients used in it? How does it effect people with acne prone skin?

Thanks so much for all your information.

Hi Sherry,

From everything I’ve been learning so far this way of thinking appears to be flawed. The skin itself relies on specific oils and peptides to naturally defend itself against foreign pathogens. When skin is lacking in either of these, issues can occur. The malassezia has specifically been shown to feed off of oleic acid and several others. However, caprylic acid and decanoic acid have actually have been shown to exhibit good anti-fungal activity against malassezia. Here, is a patent that describes the whole oil thing in a little more detail.

The full ingredients list can be found on the product page. For reference it contains caprylic acid, decanoic acid, and vegetable glycerin. I’m also working on a second formulation with two other ingredients targeted at repairing damaged skin, but haven’t been happy with it yet.

Additionally the skin chapter of the book I’m working on goes into a little more detail on how the skin is supposed to protect itself. You can find the current version of that chapter on Google Drive (https://goo.gl/I3Orti).

In terms of acne, this is a whole different beast as the bacteria responsible for it are different. Will try to look into this in more detail to see how these fatty acids interact with them specifically. But, this formulation is meant to be as simple as possible, so that it can easily be integrated and/or added to peoples existing routines.

Hope that helps. All the best.

Hi Everyone,

Sorry for the late reply. I think I will give a try to Biom8 Michael but I’m trying some treatment at the moment. Hope it will help. My dermatologist prescribed me Lithioderm 8%. I will try it if my current treatment does not work. I’m applying a cream “Kelual DS”, I try to watch carefully what I eat and I started a Quinton Isotonic treatment. I red some of Quinton’s work. And he cured people by using sea water. I know it can sounds crazy but I want to give it a try.

Pedro for Sudan’s theory and articles I give you some links. I checked again what he said on french forums and apparently for him, Restoraderm, Vineagar and salt water are all electrolitic solution. It makes sense to me especially in line with Quiton’s theory.

Website of Bernard Sudan: http://www.dermiteseborrheique.net/les-traitements-actuels/

Article of Sudan with many links to publication related to SD: http://blogs.mediapart.fr/blog/bernard-sudan/260712/les-coups-tordus-de-la-recherche-en-medecine-1-la-dermite-seborrheiqu

And finally two links towards the products that he recommends to treat SD (I have not tried them):

-http://www.amazon.fr/gp/aw/d/B004GUP1CW/ref=pd_aw_sim_121_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=0AG49HTK4H02VQ6DCT03

I emailed him. His protocol is: washing your face everyday with “Massada Pain Dermatologique”, let the soap for about two minutes on the skin. Then rince and apply the cream Massada. He also says that it can take from 2-3 days to two weeks to see an improvement.

I hope it can help some of us. I have not tried this yet but I ordered the two products.

Good luck to the community in our fight against this SD. And thank you Michael for this website. It really helps. However I would be happy not to come back one day ?

Antoine

Hi Antoine,

Thanks for all the details. I'm still struggling to find much work from Sudan. The only published stuff I could find was about seborrheic dermatitis and nicotine. However, this connection has been documented by several others as well. Let me know if you come across any specific articles.

As for the protocol, I personally have a different approach. Currently I've stopped washing my face with anything except water. Then apply the a tiny bit of Biom8 and that's it. So far my skin has been absolutely free from SD for about 3-4 weeks. Good skin color has also returned. However, I'm really interested in hearing back from community about this approach (feedback should start coming in the next few weeks).

I strongly believe that part of the issue is the skin not being able to properly synthesis several key fatty acids it requires to maintain a healthy environment. Part of this problem comes from inside and part of it occurs at a genetic level right at the skin. So, even though washing the face may aid in the removal of the malassezia and it's metabolites and result in relief, this approach must be consistently maintained similar to anti-fungal washes. I believe the key for long term remission is repairing the normal functioning of the skin and allowing it to basically catch up with what it needs to be doing. This is being covered in great detail in the book I'm working on.

As for the soap, I've used several similar soaps (dead sea and clay), but all soap I've tested has always stripped my skin and I never managed to sustain any of the results.

The seborrheic dermatitis chapter is almost ready. Will update with a draft copy of it soon.

All the best.

Hi Michaell

I’ve been using Promiseb for years which has very simple ingredients in it and I believe that the Shea butter in it has very beneficial. Sure hope your new product works!!! I look forward to hearing more of your experience with it as time goes by.

Hi Sherry,

Thanks for the update. Promiseb looks interesting and the studies behind it show good results. Personally, I don’t think it’s the shea butter that is doing the work. Have tested in a number of formulations when trying to create Biom8, but it didn’t seem to add much benefit. If I had to single any of the ingredients of Promiseb it would likely be the glycyrrhetinic acid for it’s antimicrobial activity. Strange that it requires a prescription though.

The Biom8 is still working really well for me. Still need a bit more time to hear back from others.

All the best.

Hi Michael,

Thanks for sharing your biom8 invention with the community.

Can I mix the biom8 oil with oregano oil or tea tree oil?

Hi Jamie,

Don’t see any issue with this. However, you shouldn’t need any essential oils.
Would suggest you initially give it a try without these.

All the best.

Thanks for your kind reply. I was checking out the ingredients in biom8. Seabuckthorn seed oil is an interesting oil. However I read the oleic acid may worsen SD and Seabuckthorn seed/berry oil contains 10-13% oleic acid. Please pardon me if I have provided any inaccurate info as this was taken from the Internet.

Hi Jamie,

The seabuckthorn oil only makes up a portion of the overall formula and in the end the oleic acid is likely closer to 1-2% of the total oil content. Additionally, oleic acid appears to only cause issues after it has been broken down my the malassezia to various fatty acids which create the issues (source). However, the other oils demonstrate anti malassezia action and thus prevent it’s activity.

Hope that helps.

Hi Michael,

Tried to use the skindrone $10 off coupon for biom8 and it’s not working. Is there another method?
Thanks!

Hi Jenn,

Sorry for the delay in response. Unfortunately the coupon code was only available for initial testing. Check your email for a holiday surprise :).

Happy holidays and best of luck in the new year!

Hi Micheal,

If u think about it, the key component in this stupid process of SD is Sebum of course.
I agree with many here that state we need an approach that goes with the bodies normal functioning .
Now since Sebum seems to be the gasoline to the fire ! why do our faces produces such quantities ? what makes it that our facial glandes are pumping so much of it for it to feed the fungus and bacteria . I think its the bodies way of trying to repair damage done to those regions in which plays the skin barrier and most importantly moisture.
For some reason i believe is the skin can’t retain moisture like it should and the result is overcompensation of sebum and skin problems acne , SD.
The approach should go the same way as our bodies are intending to go, But better said then done .

Hi,

I have pretty much the same problems you had, and have yet to find a solution.

In regards to the Cetaphil cleanser, is it specifically for the face, as I can only find it labelled ‘body’, especially available in the uk.

Thanks for all the super useful info!

Thanks, very interesting updates from sebo cures,looks like all those natural helps like garlic, sea salt, coconut oil do not really help and sometimes make things worse. Besides, it seems to me that the actual cure is the cleanser ( Your doctor suggested it for reason, didn’t he ?) .

Could you please take some pictures of the cleanser you’re using, it’d be very helpful.

Best regards

Its now August 2018 and my symptoms have progressively gotten worse over the past two years due to a lot stress and weight gain. I was just searching for a current regimen in regards to a facewash. I see the Cetaphil Restoraderm Cleanser is only used for body. Its safe to use for face as well? Im not sure if youre aware if the bottle has changed or had there been any drastic change in the ingredients. Please let me know, I am of mixed African American heritage and apparently my grandmother is the only one known to have suffered from SD, but it was mostly in the ear. Mine mostly Impacts my head, primarily my face. my nose is now white due to all of the medications prescribed to me. I am suffering from Hypopigmentation on the nose which is quite noticeable. I am of lighter complexion with a red undertone. I also suffer from Rosacea as well, so I can get quite red. It shows especially on the corners of my nose.

Hi,

Thanks for creating this website that allows people to share what has worked for them in treating dermatitis. I read a few articles on here last year when I was still in the midst of constant dermatitis flare-ups on my face and scalp.

Here is my experience:
I moved to Oklahoma almost 3 years ago and a few months after I moved is when it started to develop. For a while it would come and go and be only on small areas of my face, and 1 sea salt bath per month seemed to help keep it down. After about half a year of that it was no longer as effective. I then started applying zinc sunscreen on my face and that was effective removing redness, flakes and inflammation but I did not see it as a long term treatment, because I was having to apply it to my whole face almost every day. I went to a dermatologist in Portugal, where I’m from, she prescribed two creams with the respective active ingredients (“brand”): Cetoconazol (Tedol) and Pimecrolimus (Eidel) and I am also using an Avene moisturizer that was developed with dermatitis in mind. It has had good results. I have made no changes to my diet. For my scalp I tried H&S and DHS, both too aggressive, so I instead I bought zinc chelate capsules and dissolve the content in a much milder nature-based shampoo. The itching and dandruff have gone down considerably since I started this treatment 4-5 months ago.

There is one other thing I highly recommend, but cannot get here in the US:
But if you live in Europe you may be able to find it, It’s a German product.
Several years ago I worked in Germany in bakeries and I would get rashes on my hands from all the doughs etc. One day I got this brand of water (Forstetal) and in all seriousness, within 48 hours the rashes that had covered both my hands on and off for 3 years (whenever I was working in the bakery), just disappeared and never came back. My skin in general seemed much less sensitive. The water has naturally occurring very high levels of calcium and magnesium, I don’t know if that is why, since taking the supplements doesn’t cause the same amazing effect, all I know is that water is amazing.

Hey guys. So, I guess I need help with a diagnosis. I can’t send pictures just right now, but if I get a reply, I’ll try to.

Basically, during my freshman year of college. I had really bad acne. Like really bad. To clear up my acne, I did the ‘caveman regimen’. It worked. Although, since starting the caveman regimen, I’ve had problem areas around my mouth, nose, eyebrows and neck. Well honestly, I believe I had problems before, but just didn’t notice it as much. Anyways, It’s like my skin in those areas is constantly irritated. On my chin, I have strands of what looks like dried sebum that leaves my pores. I get little white heads in these problem areas. If I go a day without a shower, I start get this weird buildup of skin or something that is clearly visible when wet. That’s what leads me to think I have Seborrheic dermatitis. Constant burning and itching around my mouth and nose. Always feels dry and inflamed, and a buildup of dead skin or something. I really don’t know. What do you guys think?