Thanks for the info! What brand do you use?
Ive been using Doctors Best MSM. 1500mg. I got it off of iherb. I think there are better brands out there though as this one contains mg sterate which is arugably unhealthy. But its been working thus far.
Hi Patsy,
Sorry for the delay in responding. The scalp version is not yet available. It was originally planned for early January release, however, there have been some unexpected delays. There are currently several versions out for testing and basically I’m just trying to decide which one is the best.
Hope to have something out next week.
Will update all the newsletter subscribers once it is released.
Best of luck in 2016!
Hi Jamie,
Sorry for the huge delay in getting back to your comment. There has been a huge pile of emails from the holidays and I’m slowly working through these.
Just did a quick search for your order and just wanted to confirm that it was sent out on December 9th 2015. Typically international orders take 10-12 business days to arrive, but it appears the holidays have totally messed up this estimate.
Hopefully you have received your order by now.
Please let me know if it still hasn’t arrived.
Look forward to any updates.
Wish you all the best for 2016!
Hi Marco,
Thanks for checking in and the positive feedback. 
Haven’t had much experience with these. However, I’ve encountered some cases during my research and time with the website. The sebum reduction they provide may be useful, however there does appear to be a rebound effect after treatment is stopped. Either way I don’t really have much experience on this and personally didn’t find much interest in this area.
Hope that helps. Look forward to any updates.
Hi Eze,
Thank you for sharing you experience.
My experience with MSM was quite different. When I tried it I got really stuffed up (nose got clogged up and face felt kind of puffy). Took it for about two weeks in total, didn’t see much change in SD and all stuffiness went away once I stopped taking it.
The brand I used is the same one you mentioned in the your next comment (Doctors Best).
Also, there is a previous comment here a bit earlier regarding MSM. Their experience is the complete opposite and MSM is actually blamed for causing SD in the first place. So that is something to consider as well. Here is a direct link to that comment: Another Readers Experience With MSM.
Additionally, as noted in my response to that readers comment, the MSM sold in jars is synthesized in a lab. It is not extracted from anything nor is it made using any fermentation process. So this is also something to keep in mind.
Hope your results continue.
All the best and thanks again for sharing.
Im really sad that it didnt work out for you and the other user. I was hoping it would be somewhat of a universal cure but thats too optimistic.
Im trying milk thistle today which is also reported to help. Have you tried it? There seems to be more reports with milk thistle than MSM and more strongly negative or Positive. Il report my findings.
I feel as though these experiments are getting us closer to a cause. Or perhaps since our experiences differ it might be different causes.
I know some people had their first outbreaks beacuse of sunbeds (mine was). Some from alcohol. Others from just sun or random triggers.
Ultimately i think itmight be all connected to the liver. The main reason I believe this is based on what everyone has written about rosacea and seb derm causes all seem to point to toxin or metabolic overload.
Alcohol and sugar are the two biggest triggers and the main factor connecting is the metabolic pathways. They are nearly identical according to pr. Lustiq.
TCM also claims that acne rosacea is connected to Liver and lungs. Im not a TCM advocate but sometimes building anecdotal evidence can elict validity.
The only total WTF that throws me for a loop is why hot liquids a trigger??? Everything else fits some medical model…
Perhaps its mucosal related as well. It also fits your experience. Gut mucosa could be connected to the sinuses signaling pathways and i had read about this. Which explains why some foods trigger allergy reactions in seb derm sufferers since the allergy areas are the same places as .the sinuses and a histamine reaction triggered by the gut is causing the inflammation. Msm is said to help produce mucosa and reduce inflammation. Perhaps one of these mechanisms is the reason its working for me…
I have theories for days so il report my findings on milk thistle and stop the ranting lol.
Hi Michael,
I have not received the order, it has been more than a month. Taking the Christmas and New Year periods into account on top of the 10-12 business days, it should have arrived one week ago. I will wait a couple more days or weeks. But if it doesn’t reach me eventually, what should I do?
Hi Jamie,
Sorry to hear that. Hopefully it didn’t get lost and makes it soon. Orders to country such as Singapore, Malaysia, and Thailand have been taking the longest.
Perhaps the customs there are more strict or some other reason for this. Not 100% sure to be honest. Will look into this issue to see if there are any specific reasons.
Let me know if it the order doesn’t arrive be the end of this week (January 15th). We’ll have to figure out some kind of resolution.
Sorry again for the delay.
All the best and keep me updated.
Hi all. Just a quick update. Despite all my sugar consumption (which in the past was often followed by a seb. derm. outbreak) during the festive season, I remain rash, redness and flake free! Since day 3 of using BIOM8 I have had no new breakouts. Its now been over 3 months.
I sincerely hope others have the success I have with it.
I tried MSM and it made my sebhorreic dermatitis worse and also made me feel quite unwell.
I decided to try MSM only yesterday and I’ve noticed a big improvement in my skin! Normally I’d notice that the skin on my eyebrows would produce faster than usual (which somehow led to a bit of hair loss whenever I washed them). Unfortunately biom8 didn’t work for my skin very much and no other topical treatments have worked for me either. I’ve only been taking MSM tablets for 2 days now but I’m quite sure it’s made an improvement to my skin. The skin on my forehead is smoother and I don’t see as much hair loss. I definitely have to give it more time and I’ll update on any progress. I only realize now that my problem has something to do with what I’m eating, or what I’m not eating, I’m really not too sure. But anyway, best of luck to everyone! I’ll update again after a while.
Hi Michael,
Thanks for the follow up. I will keep you posted on the status of delivery. Appreciate your help in my journey to battle SD.
Well i am half way into the 6 month worth of pills. The sebum production has dramatically decreased and I’m basically drying up from he inside to the outside. The effect on my SD is still unknown as a side effect of these pills are extremely dry lips, eyes and skin. So i am flaking a lot due to the dry skin, hence difficult to see the effect on my SD.
Think i will try your BIOM8 for the first time. Try it on a small area of my face now while im on the Roaccutane cure and try in full once im done with the pills and my skin is back to my normal SD skin so to say:)
Hi Eze
How are thing going with the milk thistle?
Interesting to read your info on gut, liver, allergi and sinus. Are you having sinus issues?
I have a chronic sinus issue. I think it started as a child when I was jumping and playing in hay at my grand mothers Hi Eze
How are thing going with the milk thistle?
Interesting to read your info on gut, liver, allergi and sinus. Are you having sinus issues?
I have a chronic sinus issue. I think it started as a child when I was jumping and playing in hay all summers.
I keep my SD in control by avoiding sugar, alcohol, gluten and processed foods. Outdoor activities works great to. I only use water based topical probiotics on face and wash it with water only.
I’m starting the John Vale skin clear programme 25th of January. Will come back with updates.
Hi Michael,
The order has not arrived. I placed the order of Skin Conditioning Oil 100ml on 6 Dec 2015.
Hi Jamie,
Sorry to hear that. This is the second order to Singapore that hasn’t showed up.
Another persons order was shipped all the way back in the end of November.
Not sure what the reason maybe, but the post office informed me that it may be related to customs.
Typically international orders take 12 business days to arrive. So this is extremely unusual.
Hopefully your order arrives soon. Email me if you have any updates. If nothing shows up be the end of next week, we’ll try to figure out a resolution.
All the best.
Thought I would update on the Seb Derm.
My seb derm is REALLY improving. I’ve been eating heavy carbs/sugars which are normally big triggers for me. Taking MSM and Milk thistle has virtually eliminated the problems. There’s still some red irritation… and the reason why is…
Masturbation.
For any guy who is reading this and has the seb derm along nasal folds… masturbation is an absolute trigger for me. I’ve been doing MSM for 3 weeks and after the first week I was super clear. Then I had sex. And BAM 3 hours later I had red itches and blotches. A week later I got clear again… and on saturday again I masturbated. Bam red itches and blotches.
I’ve also read another guy who experienced the same thing with his Seb Derm. He also rid his seb derm by doing NoFap. I’m doing it now and the improvements are miraculous.
I’ve been on NoFap before but it never helped my seb derm because I wasn’t taking MSM and Milk Thistle. I believe that some versions of Seb Derm are diet related and caused by Liver issues. MSM and Milk thistle help the liver. Masturbation alters liver function negatively.
It’s something else to try for those sufferers out there.
I hope to try Biom8 when I get back to the States as well. Hopefully it’s going to be the final step to 100% free.
Hi Hakan,
You know… now that you mentioned it. I did have a lung infection that required a part of my lung removed. I was a heavy smoker and had pneumonia as well.
Perhaps the two are related? Now though, I don’t have any other sinus issues. Pretty clear and I don’t get stuffy or anything.
Otherwise, the MSM and Milk thistle are doing AMAZING jobs. I’m so clear and I can eat sugar carbs, etc… (Haven’t tried alcohol and never will)
I’ve been regaining back my weight and feel very happy. One more important tidbit is that I found that masturbation will DESTROY my face again. It absolute messes with any gains and it persists for a week to heal back. I’ve read that masturbation alters liver function as well. And interestingly enough during victorian days they said that people with Rosacea were Chronic mastubators. There might be something very true about it. (Bill Clinton lol).
Anyways… I am simply very clear. Not perfect, but that’s also because I masturbated a few days ago (Which is why I know it’s a cause of seb derm as I’ve been experimenting with it). If I’m fully clear within 2 weeks… I’m going to start posting everywhere with this cure.
- MSM
- Milk Thistle
- No Masturbation
Hi again Michael,
I’m glad you may have found a long term solution with the Biom8.
I just wanted to let you know of my own progress. I have SD around my nose (the butterfly) and below it too. It is closely correlated with eating trigger foods such as red meat, soy sauce, vinegar, and spicy foods. I have mostly controlled it by avoiding those foods.
I am currently travelling in Thailand and therefore I am using a lot of sunblock on my face to avoid burning. Well, what do you know? – I don’t have any SD. I think it matters what kind of sunblock I’m using: a natural zinc-based sunblock and not the oxybenzone, etc type that are more common in mainstream brands. My sunblock was bought in a health food store. I know you mentioned another zinc-based cream was helpful for SD so I wonder if zinc is key. My sunblock has 8% zinc oxide and 8% titanium oxide in it. I only use a tiny amount on my face so I’m not white at all. Maybe slightly shiny from the natural oils in the cream.
I’m eating a lot of spicy food here in Thailand as you can imagine and so far, my skin has been completely clear. I’m not sure if it could be something else but I can’t think of anything else that I’m doing differently.
Anyway, I thought I would share that.
All the best,
Chris