I believe understanding the condition is the first step to long term treatment.
Tea tree oil wasn’t that great for me. As mentioned in this post the Biom8 has been of the best things I’ve tried.
For the scalp/hair I haven’t had any real issues for more then a year now. This is the shampoo I’ve been using: Andalou Naturals Moisture Rich Shampoo
Randomly a little patch of SD may still pop-up around the hairline, but the Biom8 seems to take care of it really quick.
Hope that helps and let me know if you have any updates.
I just found the most important article on treating the cause of skin problems, that I have come across in 10 years.
Clinical and investigative studies confirm that supplementation with a combination of flaxseed, borage and fish oils at the correct dosages during ca two months, is an important step to improving skin texture, skin complexion and the treatment of certain skin disorders (eczema, psoriasis and some cases of acne), due to their effects on promoting the production of prostaglandins PG-1 and PG-3 in the skin.
Processed foods like sugar and alcohol and so on promotes the procuction of PG-2 which makes the skin red, dra, scaly and infected.
I will try to find the correct dosage for this and go for it a few months. Will get back with results.
I really like the Biom8 so far! Just wondering, how does one apply it with makeup? I’m a little nervous about it because I know oil-based makeup makes seborrheic dermatitis worse.
Hi Kay,
I wear makeup to work everyday and have not had any problem using the BIOM8 with it.
What I do is I wash my face with cool water in the morning and apply a tiny bit of BIOM8 as per Michaels instructions while my face is still slightly damp, massaging it in well (my problem skin is around my nose and chin so thats where I put the most BIOM8. I only give my forehead a quick swipe because I find my makeup can get a little shiny in that area if I put too much there). I wait a short while for it to absorb then apply my makeup. I bought the large bottle of BIOM8 (250mls) so use that to remove my makeup as well. Also use it as a moisturiser over my whole body straight after a shower again whilst skin is still slightly damp. I too was told not to use oils on Seb. Derm but find BIOM8 is an exception, my skin is clear after a very long time and has been for approx. 2 months. Good luck PS. I use an oil free makeup made especially for sensitive skin.
Hi,
I use Clinique Redness Solutions- it’s quite expensive ie AUD $50, but lasts for ages. When I am makeup free I use Cetaphil Suntivity SPF 30 (Face) which also comes in SPF 50. It’s non greasy and paraben free around AUD $15. I’ve tried the other Clinique foundations but have found the a Redness solutions is the only one I don’t react to.
http://www.clinique.com/esearch?search=redness
I see 6 different ones here. I know everyone’s skin is different, but if it works for someone with a similar problem, it is a good place to start.
thanks
Hi Michael, I have SD on my eyebrows which causes hair loss. I purchased Biom8 and was wondering whether it should stop the hair loss? Did you experience anything like this also? It’s mentioned as well that it makes an excellent tanning oil, what does this mean though if I wanted to apply it to my face only to get rid of the SD on my eyebrows? Also, is there a chance my skin will eventually become immune to this oil or if I stopped using it will the SD perhaps return?
Thank you!
There is a significant difference between plant based omega 3s and fish based omega 3s.
Here is the relevant snippet out of the Omega chapter from the book I’m working on:
Falling under the classification omega-3s are a large number of specific fatty acids, which we obtain from many different sources.
The most researched of theses are DHA and EPA. These omega-3 fatty acids can be obtained through diet (mainly from seafood) or synthesized within the body from ALA (alpha-linolenic acid - another omega-3). However, the conversion of ALA to to DHA and EPA is not very efficient (conversion efficiency is below 5%). Additionally, the process used for conversion of ALA directly competes with the breakdown of omega-6 fatty acids. As a result, an abundance of omega-6 fatty acids further decreases the efficiency for humans to obtain needed EPA and DHA (from ALA) declines further. Luckily, DHA and EPA can be obtained directly through diet.
Fish and marine products are the best source of DHA and EPA. However, there is significant variant among different fish species. For example, while Pacific Herring can have 1.06g of EPA and 0.75g of DHA per 3 ounce serving, Pacific Cod only has 0.09g of EPA and 0.15 of DHA for the same 3 ounce portion. As a result, some marine products are much better than others for obtaining these fatty acids.
ALA is widely available from plant sources. The most popular of these appears to be Flax Seeds, which contain roughly 50% of its oil composition in the form of ALA. As a result, a single tablespoon of ground flax seed contains about 1600 mg of ALA. At the 5% efficiency level mentioned above, this can be converted to about 80 mg of DHA and EPA, which is actually quite unimpressive. However, the pure oil is a little better as a single tablespoon contains 8.5g of ALA (425 mg ALA and EPA). Some other sources of ALA include:
Walnuts (1 ounce = 2.6 ALA)
Canola Oil (1 tablespoon = 1.2 ALA)
Mustard Oil (1 tablespoon = 0.8 ALA)
However, because these plant sources of omega-3 always contain some quantity of omega-6, the final amount of obtained DHA and EPA is unclear.
The full chapter draft can be found here.
Hope that helps and all the best.
My own approach with it is really simple. Cleanse with slightly cold water and apply Biom8 a few minutes later as a moisturizer.
However, I guess it can be used as a sort of cleanser and washed off with water after it’s usage. Would love to hear your experience with this approach.
What type of Vitamin C serum are you using (ingredients or direct product link)? The composition would determine the order.
The oil free formula will actually be arriving today.
Planning to initially send it out a discounted price in a package with the condition oil (the conditioning oil has had a really impressive success rate, while the oil free formula is brand new).
Can hopefully setup the order page sometime this evening.
When used together the oil free formula would be applied prior to the conditioning oil.
The oil free formula contains ingredients I wanted to originally add to the conditioning oil, but bonding agents and preservatives would have been required.
For this reason the formulas were separated. When used together they should compliment each other (increasing anti-fungal activity and improving skin repair rate).
Personally stay away from Curezone as it has provided lot’s of stress and confusion for me in the past.
Having a narrow focus regarding the skin condition has shown to provide little results. A more compounded approach to understanding the unique circumstances of your own health appears to be the key to long term treatment.
Sugar and alcohol are unhealthy in general, but a healthy immune system should have no issues with them.
Too much can degrade the immune system though.
PS. Have tried supplementing with borage, hemp seed flax seed oils. This didn’t produce any results for me.
Personally stay away from Curezone as it has provided lot’s of stress and confusion for me in the past.
Having a narrow focus regarding the skin condition has shown to provide little results. A more compounded approach to understanding the unique circumstances of your own health appears to be the key to long term treatment.
Sugar and alcohol are unhealthy in general, but a healthy immune system should have no issues with them.
PS. Have tried supplementing with borage, hemp seed flax seed oils. This didn’t produce any results for me.
Hi Donna,
Thanks for addressing the question. Personally lack any experience with it’s use alongside make-up…
But, this is the exact approach I would have suggested (apply Biom8, allow to absorb, and apply makeup over-top).
Glad to hear your results continue as well!
All the best.
From everything I’ve learnt so far the hair loss is basically the result of fungus invading the hair follicles. Once the fungal activity is controlled the hair loss issues appear to resolve themselves.
If your own hair loss issues are associated with a different cause, results may be different.
When I had issues with SD on my eye-brows I experience hair loss as well. Controlling the SD would always stop/reverse the hair loss.
Currently with Biom8, my eyebrows are very health and have not had any issues since starting it’s usage.
Anything is possible as living organism (including fungus) have the ability to mutate and adapt.
Hopefully it works indefinitely.
For long term usage, I personally like it very much so I don’t have any issues with this.
Also, since I made it myself and know the origin of the ingredients I’ve never really second-guessed it’s usage.
Many of my friends who don’t even have SD have been asking for it as well. My skin looks really healthy and vibrant, so people have been naturally asking me what I use.
Hope that helps and best of luck with the Biom8. Hopefully your results are similar to mine.
Look forward to any updates.
Yes I do use a concealer but only in the areas I don’t get Seb Derm. It’s not oil free. Max Factor Pan Stick which I use on my eye lids, as a base for my powder eyeshadow, and as a base for my lipstick (little tricks a makeup artist told me which stop eyeshadow from going into the creases and helps my lipstick stay put). I also apply a little under my eyes for occasional dark rings using the dab, dab application technique For taking my makeup off I wet my clean hands and put a little BIOM8 on them then wipe that over my face. I then get some baby wipes (fragrance free and rinsed under water for good measure to remove anything which could possible irritate my skin then remove my makeup with them. I repeat the process, rince my face with cool water then apply a tiny bit of BIOM8 massaging in well as per Michaels instructions. It all sounds like a bit to do, but it really doesn’t take long at all. I use baby wipes because they are convenient and saves washing face washers which breed bacteria anyway. I don’t use a heavy duty mascara so I don’t know if my makeup removing technique would work with that. Hope this helps!
The Vit C serum that I am using is Skinceuticals CE Ferulic serum. This is the only product I apply in the morning besides sunscreen. I do not use a cleanser in the morning or moisturizer as the ingredients may aggravate my SD. I have tried Cetaphil Restoraderm Wash 3 months ago as my cleanser but my SD reacted badly to it. Way back in March this year I was doing the honey treatment with good results but the improvement was not significant, eventually my SD returned. Even Elomet could not calm down the redness.
This is my current morning routine. I wet a terry towel with water; cold, warm or hot, I am inconsistent. Wring out the wet towel and wipe on my face a few times. Less than 1 min when my face is almost dry, I apply Skinceuticals CE Ferulic. I wait about 10 min for the serum to dry, followed by sunscreen. I am using La Roche-Posay Anthelios XL SPF 50+.
Night time I cleanse with Ceradan Wash, which is given by my dermatologist. I use a night time cleanser as I need to remove the sunscreen effectively. I have tried Rhassoul clay, it was really great but I am not sure if it could cleanse off the sunscreen so I am stuck with Ceradan. I hope to ditch Ceradan and use Biom8 so my concern is whether it could remove sunscreen and/or makeup. My night time routine is just cleansing, no moisturizers or any facial products.
I didn’t know that the oil free formula and conditioning oil are complimentary, I always assumed it is one or the other. I would like to get both and start with only the conditioning oil first to test out for one month, then add the oil free formula subsequently. What do you think?
Have just ordered your BIOM8 as well as I figured it’s worth a shot!
My case of Seb Derm is mostly a cosmetic concern about the constant redness on the sides of my nose and (albeit to a much lesser extent) the crease midway between my mouth and chin. I’m fortunate that flakiness and itchiness have only been minor problems that I don’t experience often in these areas, but the lingering redness has by and large been the most frustrating aspect that I can’t seem to resolve. For the past couple years I haven’t remembered a single moment where there hasn’t been a fair amount of nasolabial redness (and I made the common mistake of initially attributing it to dryness and over-moisturising those areas, which either didn’t work or exacerbated it).
I also suffer from dandruff in the scalp, sideburns, moustache, and beard but I’ve had a lot of success controlling that with rotating through a couple medicated anti-dandruff shampoos. That said, I’d much prefer to use something to treat my facial hair dandruff that is kinder to my face’s skin than a shampoo (which obviously is designed for use on the scalp, not the face). One of the things that appeals to me about BIOM8 oil is that since it’d have an oily consistency it ought to be a good candidate for that, compared to anti-fungal creams whose texture makes it impractical to treat the beard and moustache.
I have a couple questions:
1.) Have you been using BIOM8 oil after cleansing both morning and night, or just once a day?
2.) As I mentioned, redness is my primary concern, far more than any flakiness or itchiness. Has this oil had a lot of success treating that in particular?
PS. I use an oil free makeup made especially for sensitive skin.